MAME / Doom on the WebTV Plus

MAME/DOOM on the WebTV Plus

Welcome to MAME/DOOM on the WebTV Plus. On this page i'm going to provide information on how to customize your WebTV Plus unit. When this project first started the goal was to simply get MAME working and provide some sort of way to start it up. While in the process of looking for the best way to start MAME the project started to grow to include more stuff and of course with more stuff you need some kind of user interface. It took a lot of work, special tools, and a lot of help from a couple close friends and finally we have something. The progress videos below you can see some of the progress made later on in the project this will give you an idea of what this custom build does. At this point the project is complete and I will provide a instructional video on how to set this up on your WebTV and download links below.

Goals for the custom final build are

Get MAME working on WebTV Plus and Derby Plus- 100% complete

Get Doom working - 100% - Finally - it only took 7 years :-)

Make all original WebTV midi's available for listening - 100% complete (Karaoke player only avail for Old Plus not Derby.)

Layout and custom pages - 100%

Progress last updated 4/24/2021 - Original start of project 10/29/2014

Now that all goals are complete I'm not going to say i'm 100% done with this build. I may find other cool things to get on the WebTV plus. Who knows. Update: All new custom build for the Old WebTV plus and Derby! everthing has been redone, to many updates to list! Check out the video below. Last Updated 11-19-2022

This hack should work on any OLD Plus and DERBY Plus that have the hard drive, will not work on the newer plus that has a Flash Disk. Check the model number on the back of your unit and then check the list below.

HOW DO I KNOW IF I HAVE A DERBY? First look through the top vents on your unit, on the right side you should be able to see a hard drive. If you don't you have a NEW Plus, this hack will not work. If you see a hard drive but don't see your model number listed below you most likely have a DERBY. Another thing you can try is if you have a hard drive and are unsure if it's a Derby or not then while the power is off point the keyboard at your WebTV and hit the options button and then enter in the numbers 411 the lights on your unit should flash, now turn on your WebTV. You should see a WebTV Tech Info screen and at the bottum of that screen you should see Modem info, if it says something about a SoftModem then it's a Derby if it don't then it's the Old Plus (Note: depending on your current build you might not see anything about a modem at all). Best method is if you know you have a hard drive and your going to install this hack then your going to have to take apart your WebTV anyway so look on the motherboard you should see the word DERBY. Worst case is you install the old plus build on your box and it doesn't work then you know you have a Derby, just reinstall the build but use the Dreby one this time ;-)

The list below shows all WebTV models that this will and will not work on. Please note that this list is not complete it may be missing some models. If you have a WebTV that is not listed here please E-Mail Me and let me know!

Brand Model Type Modem RAM ROM Storage CPU speed CPU chip Install Hack

Sony INT-W100 Classic V.34 2 MB (2 MiB) 2 MB (2 MiB) 2 MB 112 MHz R4640 No

Philips MAT-960 Classic V.34 2 MB 2 MB 2 MB 112 MHz R4640 No

Sony INT-WJ200 Classic (Japan) V.90 8 MB 4 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 No

Sony INT-W150 New Classic V.90 8 MB 2 MB 2 MB 150 MHz RM5230 No

Philips MAT-965 New Classic V.90 8 MB 2 MB 2 MB 150 MHz RM5230 No

RCA RW-2100 New Classic V.90 8 MB 2 MB 2 MB 150 MHz RM5230 No

RCA RM-2100 New Classic V.90 8 MB 2 MB 2 MB 150 MHz RM5230 No

Sony INT-W200 Plus V.90 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 YES

Sony INT-W200 CND Derby Plus V.90 soft modem 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 167 MHz RM5230 YES

Philips MAT-972 Plus V.90 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 YES

Samsung SIS-100 Plus V.90 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 YES

Mitsubishi WB-2000 (RW- ?) Plus V.90 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 YES

La-Z-Boy Leather Plus V.90 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 YES

La-Z-Boy Fabric Plus V.90 8 MB 2 MB 1.1 GB 150 MHz R4640 YES

Sony INT-WJ300 Plus (Japan) V.90 soft modem 16 MB 4 MB 1.1 GB 167 MHz RM5230 No

RCA RW-2110 New Plus V.90 soft modem 16 MB 8 MB Flash Disk 167 MHz RM5230 No

Sony INT-W250 New Plus V.90 soft modem 16 MB 8 MB Flash Disk 167 MHz RM5230 No

Philips MAT-976 New Plus V.90 soft modem 16 MB 8 MB Flash Disk 167 MHz RM5230 No

Echostar Dishplayer 7100 DISH tuner V.90 soft modem 16 MB 4 MB 8.6 GB 167 MHz RM5230 SEE HERE

Echostar Dishplayer 7200 DISH tuner V.90 soft modem 16 MB 4 MB 17.6 GB 167 MHz RM5230 SEE HERE

RCA UltimateTV DirecTV tuner V.90 soft modem 32 MB 4 MB 40 GB 167 MHz RM5230 No

RCA RM-4100 MSNTV2 V.90 / Ethernet 128 MB none 64 MB 733 MHz Celeron No

RCA RM-4100 (2) MSNTV2 V.90 / Ethernet 256 MB none 64 MB 733 MHz Celeron No

Brand	Model	Type	Modem	RAM	ROM	Storage	CPU speed	CPU chip	Install Hack
Sony	INT-W100	Classic	V.34	2 MB (2 MiB)	2 MB (2 MiB)	2 MB	112 MHz	R4640	No
Philips	MAT-960	Classic	V.34	2 MB	2 MB	2 MB	112 MHz	R4640	No
Sony	INT-WJ200	Classic (Japan)	V.90	8 MB	4 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	No
Sony	INT-W150	New Classic	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	2 MB	150 MHz	RM5230	No
Philips	MAT-965	New Classic	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	2 MB	150 MHz	RM5230	No
RCA	RW-2100	New Classic	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	2 MB	150 MHz	RM5230	No
RCA	RM-2100	New Classic	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	2 MB	150 MHz	RM5230	No
Sony	INT-W200	Plus	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	YES
Sony	INT-W200 CND	Derby Plus	V.90 soft modem	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	167 MHz	RM5230	YES
Philips	MAT-972	Plus	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	YES
Samsung	SIS-100	Plus	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	YES
Mitsubishi	WB-2000 (RW- ?)	Plus	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	YES
La-Z-Boy	Leather	Plus	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	YES
La-Z-Boy	Fabric	Plus	V.90	8 MB	2 MB	1.1 GB	150 MHz	R4640	YES
Sony	INT-WJ300	Plus (Japan)	V.90 soft modem	16 MB	4 MB	1.1 GB	167 MHz	RM5230	No
RCA	RW-2110	New Plus	V.90 soft modem	16 MB	8 MB	Flash Disk	167 MHz	RM5230	No
Sony	INT-W250	New Plus	V.90 soft modem	16 MB	8 MB	Flash Disk	167 MHz	RM5230	No
Philips	MAT-976	New Plus	V.90 soft modem	16 MB	8 MB	Flash Disk	167 MHz	RM5230	No
Echostar	Dishplayer 7100	DISH tuner	V.90 soft modem	16 MB	4 MB	8.6 GB	167 MHz	RM5230	SEE HERE
Echostar	Dishplayer 7200	DISH tuner	V.90 soft modem	16 MB	4 MB	17.6 GB	167 MHz	RM5230	SEE HERE
RCA	UltimateTV	DirecTV tuner	V.90 soft modem	32 MB	4 MB	40 GB	167 MHz	RM5230	No
RCA	RM-4100	MSNTV2	V.90 / Ethernet	128 MB	none	64 MB	733 MHz	Celeron	No
RCA	RM-4100 (2)	MSNTV2	V.90 / Ethernet	256 MB	none	64 MB	733 MHz	Celeron	No

Notes: It is unclear if any other manufacturers made a Derby unit other than Sony. It's also unclear what units came with the La-Z-Boy 'e-cliner' (likely sony) and unknown if it's Old Plus or Derby Plus. lol who actually has/had one of these??

Needed Files

OLD PLUS
Download - Custom_OLD-PLUS_WTV_Build_7352_MAME-DOOM-YDKJ-ExtraBuild.img Last Updated 11-19-2022

PLUS DERBY
Download - Custom_DERBY_WTV_Build_7.2.5.3_MAME-DOOM-YDKJ-ExtraBuild.img Last Updated 11-19-2022

Download WinHex:
WinHex 19.6 Full Version

Download 7zip form:
7zip

Troubleshooting

WARNING - Please make sure you unplug your WebTV every time you remove or plug your hard drive back in. This is important! I have popped a few fuses on my plus units by forgetting to do this. You can repair it but it's a pain in the ass repairing those mini fuses on the board!
MAME - Once you start MAME you will stay in MAME, meaning everytime you trun on your box MAME will start up. If you want to get back to the HackTV Home Page you need to unplug your WebTV for 30 sec then plug it back in and when you power back on you should be back at HackTV Home. Or you can use power off code 8673094 witch will exit out of the MAME build and restore the HackTV build. Update: New exit button added to MAME, shutsdown MAME properly and restores HackTV build. If you don't exit with the button the above still applies.
I DON'T HAVE A IDE CONNECTION ON MY PC! - If you have a spare SATA drive sitting around you can use that. You'll need to get a IDE to SATA connector, then you can ZERO out the drive with WinHex. Goto Tools - Open Disk, select your WebTV drive. Then goto Edit - Select All - Edit again - Fill Block. Fill with Hex values 00 (Those are ZERO's) and click on OK. Once thats done just use WinHex to write the img to the drive (same as install video) and your done. Please note this may not work with all drives. You can also use a SD card, see video below.
New info regarding hard drive locking. If your using a hdd other than the original wtv hdd that supports locking then anything from 2.6-2.9 Daily Debug will lock that drive. Anything 2.5 Daily Debug and below is safe. If your using sd card with adapter your safe. Also from testing it looks as though they removed that locking shit on production builds. So you should be good on 2.9 and below if using a production build. No other testing has been done so weekly, genesis, export builds i have no idea. The custom HackTV img is 100% safe to use on anything!

How to create a backup of your WebTV Plus hard drive and how to install the custom build.

Newest Custom Build Preview and how to use a SD card to replace the old WebTV HDD

Early Progress Video's 1 and 2 from the start of the project

The back story for those interested goes like this. Back in 98 when a group of guys known as WebTV Explores discovered a WebTV service known as Test-drive and on the server found that one could download games such as Doom and YDKJ. It was also rumored that other games existed that could be downloaded as well so a few of them tried to enter in different names of games in the download code to see if anything took, games like Duke Nukem, Quake, etc. but nothing seemed to work. One of the members tried Mame but it was thought at the time that nothing worked. As time went on that member blew the power supply in his box and never returned to the WebTV service again. Fast forward to 2014 out of no where I receive an e-mail from an old friend who stated that he dug his old WebTV box out from the closet and repaired the power supply so he could mess around with WebTV again, hooked it up and noticed he still had an old internal build on the unit from the test drive days so he hooked up his WebTV hard drive to a PC and realized he had something called MAME. Could it be?? All this time and he never realized that MAME on WebTV was real?? After a little rework of the Doom start up command MAME starts up. I was sent the exact hard drive image and loaded it up on my WebTV and the rest is history.

I remember Webtv was upset at the time when we released Doom and YDKJ to the public but can you imagine there reaction if we actually knew we had MAME and released that? MAME it's self wouldn't have been a big deal but having MAME complete with the roms built in released to the public might have upset them more since the roms them selves I believe is illegal.

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