Yeah Donald! You get another gold star from me! Mike

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Yeah Kev! You get one of my gold stars too! Mike

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Boy what do we have here!Bitching,crying,finger pointing,name calling and the list goes on! Grow up!

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Well I feel like I may get a lot of heat for doing this, but I am going to do it anyway! Jay, I am a friend of Bryan's and I can tell you one thing he knows more about webtv than 98% of the subscriber base. Trust me, Bryan knows his stuff. Bryan is only giving his opinion and he is entitled to give it i he wishes. Now Kev Keller! You are taking the liberty to call him an a$$ho*e huh? Well that is completely uncalled for since you don't even know him. And one last thing, if I remember right Kev, you were one of those idiots that claimed to have gotten the upgrade in March and Aprl. So doesn't that make you a lier? hmmm. Now lets stop the name calling and get on to business! So now,I said my piece and lets move on! I am just sticking up for a friend! Dan Flowers

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For the record I did get the upgrade on april 14

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Ok you may be right Kev. If you really did get the upgrade that early then I will retract my statement that you are a lier. But I dont see how you did unless you were a previewer previously?

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I'm sure If I knew nothing I wouldn't have wrote for Net4TV.com or be a writer for the biggest Gamers Network on the Internet, and I wouldn't be able to travel to game shows and moderate for the biggest Game Board out there. I'm so stupid aren't I? If you feel I know nothing, quiz me Einstein :) In turn you're the one who's self-indulgent. Come back with an idiotic flame, it's more then welcomed.

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It's hypocrite, for the record Donald you shouldn't judge me because I never made a valid statement clearifying that I hated WebTV the only thing I said leaning in that direction is I hated testing harsh client builds but it was for the better. I think someone should clear up their ears now shouldn't they? It's like calling someone a lier when they were proven not-guilty in a court of law.

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Kev open up your eyes for once, was I flamming if anything I was being sarcastic and like I said before If I was flamming someone I would tell them.
That doesn't make a diffrence Kev, you can remove me but that doesn't mean I'm the only one who's going to be out of your hair, I know 4 more people who lurk this group that have more hatred torwards an Internet device then me, point is everyone isn't perfect, everyone is entitled torwards their own opinion, it's called the 2nd ammendment, even if I do get removed from this group, I have every right in the world to sue for the simple fact I wasn't allowed to fully voice my opinion wich coincides with the second ammendment.
That's funny because if it wasn't for me half of you in those other groups wouldn't have knew so much about the economy and the direction the set-top world is going. You also should've stopped emailing me asking me every question in the book if you felt that way about me, if not you're just a hypocrite. The reason I have no respect for you is because way before the client build (2.5) was scheduled to roll out to the public you claimed to have gotten the upgrade to stir up hype, I tried adding you on my buddy-list guess what? You didn't have a passport wich means you weren't unlocked to the server. All in all you betrayed my trust and others.
It will stop once all you get out under your beds and stop trying to believe your opinion is worth more then someone else's. As for Judy or Judi, I pointed out she was too joyfull ina sarcastic way....what next If I said you were too tired and need to go to bed you're going to petition for my removal again. The more everyone responds the bigger the problem get's that you created with your own morals that you want everyone to abid by, point is everyone isn't all like you.

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Thanks Dan, I suspected so much immaturaity from people without integruity. As for Mike, you can't give out gold stars until you give out work. As for Master........If I remember you were TOS'd from another group because you were untrusted, I like this scenario

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There is no need to insult others. Thanks to those who took up for me....and lets all please let it go and Bryan i have no idea why you feel the need to do that...but i will ask you nicely...please stop? Thanks Judi

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I thought this group was moderated.

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I agree, lets keep ourselves where we belong. Maybe we can all benefit if the testers stick to their job instead of gossip. And I think certain people are hoping we drop our name at that site and darken the red group reputation.

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bryan == what seems to be your problem,with some of your comments, slow down a little,a opinon is one thing, a needless attack is another. == davval == (bps-classic-2)

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Kevin, Put our names on that petition too and as John Hancock probably said "Sign it large so it's easy to read." !!!!!!!!!!!!! XXXXXX and XXXX XXXXXXXXX

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Dan and Bryan, Opinion: 1.a belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof. Quote from American Heritage Dictionary Third Edition. An opinion does not require name calling or belittling. Bryan began this and it is now time to end it. EVERYONE: I've learned this from over 20 years in the computer business; If we ignore "trolling" it will eventually fade away. MODS: Since Bryan thinks he is below himself in this group; how about moving him to an Alpha group?

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Hi Are we Children or what now i know just why my Grandson Jeff~aka PS did not want me in NG's ~if this is what is going to go on i want no part of it

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Hi Tom and Yvonne. I'm not going to try to convince you to stay here; I wouldn't blame you if you left as I understand the shock a first impression like this can give, and let me tell you as someone who has some experience in discussion groups, learning "to take the bitter with the better" is the only way to enjoy this type of communication sometimes. But, though I'm new here myself, this newsgroup shows all of the earmarks of one filled with dedicated, sincere and considerate posters, and I'd be willing to bet that if you hung in there, you'd find this a rewarding experience, even if you have to pass over a bad apple every now and then. I hope I won't have to eat my words :) Max

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New to this group~Sony Plus Thank You Max I think i will stay and see how things go. Yvonne